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A lack of respect
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The most difficult part of our job is the mental game we must play. While there are many players in this game, one of the most frustrating relationships we become involved in revolves around our…Continue
Started this discussion. Last reply by Skip Kirkwood Nov 19, 2012.
Protocol vs Guideline
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My medical director has chosen to write guidelines as opposed to protocols. The intent is that it gives us the ability to think outside of the box and veer from the standard if it is necessary. The…Continue
Started this discussion. Last reply by Nathan Nov 7, 2012.
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Leigh Lloyd replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion A lack of respect"not to sound like I am arguing with you on this, I like to fall back on call Medical Control,,, when in doubt call "Medical Control" most of the time here in our small commuinity the person that answers the phone is a Nurse, when asked for…"
Deborah Siegel replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion A lack of respect"Guess I am incredibly lucky as I have a local hospital that has a great Nursing staff in the ED. I also completed my EMT-I clinical time in that ED and got to know the nurses, I busted my butt during my clinical shifts and earned their respect,…"
Nathan replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion A lack of respect"Boom.
The Crux....
If you want to be respected one must earn it. If we want to be respected we must earn it. We havent really earned it as a whole yet.... Ive worked both sides. There are a TON of EMS providers coming in I…"
Terry Childe replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion A lack of respect"I agree with Skip Kirkwood's reply, as medics we must show the rest of the helth care feild care givers what we are made of. To show the nurses that we are frustrated with the off load times and act poorly only compounds the issues at hand.…"
Skip Kirkwood replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion A lack of respect"I generally agree with you, Leigh, but (particularly going back to the beginning of this thread) there are way too many folks in EMS who demonstrate lack of professionalism to ED staffs and others every day. If all we are concerned about is…"
Leigh Lloyd replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion A lack of respect"I don't want to cut on anyone and the role that they play in people's lives but I do want to say that I personally know many nurses who think that those of us in EMS are not professional and that we are not qualified to do what we do! I…"
Brooks Walsh replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion A lack of respect"It isn't clear how much of this involves "emergency room personnel," and how much involves a few interpersonal clashes. I suspect the latter.
I have posted on allnurses.com in the past (I was looking for ED nurses' perspectives…"
Nathan replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion A lack of respect"I can see patient satisfaction being an issue here but not really patient care being an issue. Could you elaborate?
Secondly, I agree patient care is what matters most, but in today's world what it all comes back to is money... If…"
Deborah Siegel replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion A lack of respect"It seems to me that what matters most, patient care is being forgotten about here. It's great that those of us in health care & EMS are such passionate people, if you loose that then time to move on. Maybe trying to suggest to hospital…"
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The most difficult part of our job is the mental game we must play. While there are many players in this game, one of the most frustrating relationships we become involved in revolves around our interaction with emergency room personnel.Nurse Ratched seems to be the one that always answers the med report and is there with a disheartening frown upon arrival to ask why you brought the patient to their facility. In all reality, does she really think that you will muster up some acceptable reason…See More
Skip Kirkwood replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion A lack of respect"Those who troll here will know that Geri and I rarely agree - but this time, she makes some valid points, as does Nathan.
The choice of screen name says a lot. Methinks that there is a little low self-image issue going on here, who works for…"
Nathan replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion Protocol vs Guideline"I think that many progressive EMS services are moving towards guidelines. It seems like with guidelines there are less pages than with protocols. If you dont have to have a protocol to cover every conceivable situation then you…"
Nathan replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion A lack of respect"As always Skip says it best but I want to throw my 2 cents in. I agree with everything he said and I can say I have been a part of that change. It works. If the ER staff does not want your business then talk to the…"
iDriveTheTaxi replied to iDriveTheTaxi's discussion A lack of respect"Nurse Ratched is used as a form of humor. If you take such offense, maybe you should not be trolling around on EMS forums and stick with all nurses.com where you will not have to see this term. It appears that you have quite the feminist attitude in…"
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