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Kirk W. Johnson
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BLS Infection Control
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Is anyone aware of any research on the use of BSI, specifically gloves, by BLS?  We're all taught "BSI, Scene Safety" the minute we start the class, but does anyone have statistical evidence that the…Continue

Tags: isolation, infections, ambulance, gloves, substance

Started this discussion. Last reply by dr-exmedic Feb 3.

 

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BLS Infection Control

Is anyone aware of any research on the use of BSI, specifically gloves, by BLS?  We're all taught "BSI, Scene Safety" the minute we start the class, but does anyone have statistical evidence that the way we were BSI works?  Having watched crew after crew come to the ED with the same gloves on that they started the call with, I have to assume that the instruction we receive actually PROMOTES infections by having potential bloodborne pathogens smeared over everything from the steering wheel of…See More
Feb 4
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dr-exmedic replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"Jason Merrill said: This is what I could find quickly, but I'm sure there's more: One Two A nice Powerpoint by the doc responsible Popular press"
Feb 3
Kirk W. Johnson's discussion was featured

BLS Infection Control

Is anyone aware of any research on the use of BSI, specifically gloves, by BLS?  We're all taught "BSI, Scene Safety" the minute we start the class, but does anyone have statistical evidence that the way we were BSI works?  Having watched crew after crew come to the ED with the same gloves on that they started the call with, I have to assume that the instruction we receive actually PROMOTES infections by having potential bloodborne pathogens smeared over everything from the steering wheel of…See More
Jan 23
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Jason Merrill replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"Has your institution published any numbers on that? I'd be really interested to see them. Jason Merrill "
Jan 22
Life Saver replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"I have seen people touching patents with gloves then jump in the truck then drive with the gloves still on. I would be ok with natural selection taking these lazy bums out. "
Jan 4, 2012
Geri Jacobson replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"A few years ago most of the gloves had powder in them which told on the wearer, especially with dark trousers or scrubs,  as to where their hands had been on their own body before washing their hands. Some looked like they got an itch…"
Jan 3, 2012
Kirk W. Johnson's discussion was featured

BLS Infection Control

Is anyone aware of any research on the use of BSI, specifically gloves, by BLS?  We're all taught "BSI, Scene Safety" the minute we start the class, but does anyone have statistical evidence that the way we were BSI works?  Having watched crew after crew come to the ED with the same gloves on that they started the call with, I have to assume that the instruction we receive actually PROMOTES infections by having potential bloodborne pathogens smeared over everything from the steering wheel of…See More
Jan 3, 2012
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dr-exmedic replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"While I used think so too, our CCU has a "gloves-always" policy. They have been in the news (popular and trade) multiple times for having gone 18 months without a single central line infection, among other infection-control-related…"
Jan 2, 2012
Joe Paczkowski replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"Can it not be used for both preventing cross contamination AND provider protection? If gloves are not indicated because there's no indication of infectious disease or bodily fluids other than sweat, how high of a risk for cross contamination…"
Jan 2, 2012
Ben Waller replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"I thought the point of wearing gloves was to prevent provider contamination, not cross-contamination.   Cross-contamination can occur with or without gloves.   "
Jan 2, 2012
Geri Jacobson replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"Joe, I did state that gloves are not needed for every patient.  I made a point about the use of hand washing/sanitizer before and after each contact. I also stated about wearing gloves everywhere.  I think you may have…"
Dec 30, 2011
Joe Paczkowski replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"If you're worried about cross contamination, then observing proper hand washing procedures is much more important than wearing gloves. Ideally, we should either be using soap and water or an alcohol based hand sanitizer BOTH before AND after…"
Dec 30, 2011
Geri Jacobson replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"  Identifying the infectious patients is not always as easy as taking an SpO2 or asking a patient if they are short of breath for the use of a NRB mask. While gloves might not be required for every patient contact, they do serve as a reminder…"
Dec 30, 2011
Joe Paczkowski replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"While I agree, to a point, with the parachute analogy, how do we fight against the providers and schools who teach that every patient has every single communicable disease known and unknown, and touching the patient, even on dry intact and…"
Dec 30, 2011
dr-exmedic replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"Do we really need research to tell us not to touch clean stuff with dirty gloves? There are no randomized controlled trials of parachute use in gravitational challenge, but you wouldn't jump out of a plane without one...."
Dec 30, 2011
Joe Paczkowski replied to Kirk W. Johnson's discussion BLS Infection Control
"I know this is an old topic, but here's a good resource that I recently came across during a gloves debate on a different forum: http://www.cdc.gov/hicpac/pdf/isolation/Isolation2007.pdf Page 66 specifically covers what standard precautions…"
Dec 29, 2011

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