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Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
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If a family member of the patient is an EMT or Medic should they be allowed to ride in the back with the patient if they where present at the onset of the problem?  Also how about if it is there duty…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Devin Nemec Sep 29, 2011.

 

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Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?

If a family member of the patient is an EMT or Medic should they be allowed to ride in the back with the patient if they where present at the onset of the problem?  Also how about if it is there duty night and they get the call?
Oct 3, 2011
Carolyn J Ewell (CJ) replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"This question has been addressed a number of times in the inpatient setting. Used to be we did not allow ANYONE in when a code was being run. For that matter, no one was allowed in the delivery room way back when either. Studies have shown that…"
Sep 29, 2011
Trevor Clark replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"Really don't think it's a good idea. Too many emotions going sometimes to think like an EMT rather than a family member."
Sep 29, 2011
Tom Bouthillet replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"I think it's commendable when people want to help. There are plenty of reasons they would not want to help (e.g., fear of liability). We cannot reach our full potential without bystander involvement. We need bystander CPR and public access…"
Sep 29, 2011
Harold Phillips's discussion was featured

Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?

If a family member of the patient is an EMT or Medic should they be allowed to ride in the back with the patient if they where present at the onset of the problem?  Also how about if it is there duty night and they get the call?
Sep 28, 2011
Steven Sean Humphreys replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"Derek I agree, However in the accident I am speaking of. If the EMT or Paramedic had been restrained on the bench seat were they were sitting, the tree that ripped the box open would have ripped them in two. Every situation is different and yes…"
Sep 27, 2011
Steven Sean Humphreys replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"And the ambulance I was speaking of was a Horton and it was demolished. They do not test all possible scenerios and truth be told, Horton has NO IDEA what there construction is going to do in "REAL WORLD.""
Sep 27, 2011
Derek replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"People in general die every year "due to wrecks". It's just the inherent risk of riding in a moving vehicle at highway speeds with the inability to control certain factors and other peoples driving behavior. But that doesn't make…"
Mar 26, 2011
Trevor replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"They're not safe, its that easy... Medics die every year, due to wrecks, while providers were in the back. Unfortunately, so far, there hasnt been another "main stream" way to transport patients to the hospital differently then…"
Mar 24, 2011
Skip Kirkwood replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"If we had a lick of sense, we wouldn't buy the boxes that we do.  They may be safe, they may be unsafe, but they have not been tested for the ability to withstand impact, and there are no federal motor vehicle safety standards (FMVSS) for…"
Mar 21, 2011
Chris Scherzer replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"I've run code with a spouse up front recently and the patient was a member of our EMS review board.  I explained to the wife that we would be going a little over the speed limit and that after stopping at red lights and stop signs that we…"
Mar 21, 2011
Harold Phillips replied to B.J. Jones's discussion Psycological Testing in EMS... in the group EMT-Basics
"Hey Joe are you recruiting for a college  "
Mar 20, 2011
Trevor replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"in one word??? Safety... People usually dont die of traumatic injuries in a hospital room."
Mar 20, 2011
Derek replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"I don't think there is a single answer to the question asked. It really depends on the overall dynamics of the incident. As long as the patient is calm, family member is calm, patient is stable, and they insist on riding in the back, then I…"
Mar 19, 2011
Trevor replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"The truth is Rogue, i dont know "if its going to be safe this time". Just like you dont know if its going to be safe the next time you are in the back with a patient. You cant minimize the risks anymore then telling people to sit in the…"
Feb 22, 2011
Steven Sean Humphreys replied to Harold Phillips's discussion Should a family member be allowed in the back of rig if they are EMT cert and present at onset?
"I pose this question, what happens if the person you are going to is a fellow EMT / Paramedic? Arent they your family also? And in most cases in EMS family, arent you somewhat closer to them than your own family due to the fact they are responsible…"
Feb 22, 2011

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