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Functional vs. Foundational Education
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So, I've been preparing lectures on A&P and pathophysiology for an EMT class, and it reignited something I've been chewing over for the past year or so.  I've come to view EMS education (the…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Justin P Feb 19.

 

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Functional vs. Foundational Education

So, I've been preparing lectures on A&P and pathophysiology for an EMT class, and it reignited something I've been chewing over for the past year or so.  I've come to view EMS education (the initial education, at least) as a pull between functional training and foundational education.  The opposing ends of the spectrum of medical training seem fairly clear-cut; if you're teaching a first aid class, you focus on functional training.  You see A, therefore you do B.  Physicians and other…See More
Mar 27
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Justin P replied to Ben Dowdy's discussion Functional vs. Foundational Education
"I think one of the biggest problems we have in clinical education is that we send paramedics (who focus on a very narrow acute medical model scope) and send them into hospital ER's to do clinical rotations where they are usually working…"
Feb 19
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Functional vs. Foundational Education

So, I've been preparing lectures on A&P and pathophysiology for an EMT class, and it reignited something I've been chewing over for the past year or so.  I've come to view EMS education (the initial education, at least) as a pull between functional training and foundational education.  The opposing ends of the spectrum of medical training seem fairly clear-cut; if you're teaching a first aid class, you focus on functional training.  You see A, therefore you do B.  Physicians and other…See More
Feb 11
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Sarah Tusing replied to Ben Dowdy's discussion Functional vs. Foundational Education
"As I student, I always appreciate instructors that go heavy on foundation materials. I have a very hard time memorizing things. However, if you give me a solid foundation to work off of, then I understand and don't have to memorize. As an…"
Feb 4
Mike Ward replied to Ben Dowdy's discussion Functional vs. Foundational Education
"This is the chart developed by Walt Stoy, PhD., (U Pitt) when they were discussing this issue while developing the 2009 Educational Standards. Paramedics are on the upper right. EMTs are in the middle EMRs are in the lower left.  "
Jan 31
Steve Coffey replied to Ben Dowdy's discussion Functional vs. Foundational Education
"This is a very interesting discussion, after doing a TSOP yesterday I brought up this very topic. I agree there has to be middle, as pre-hospital providers and educators I do believe we sometimes push too much on the foundation side but not enough…"
Jan 31
The Cannulator replied to Ben Dowdy's discussion Functional vs. Foundational Education
"It's simpler, you just need a degree level qualification with a assessable internship as the minimum professional pre-hospital qualification. There is also more to being a pre-hospital professional than the sexy…"
Jan 30
Skip Kirkwood replied to Ben Dowdy's discussion Functional vs. Foundational Education
"Why don't we have the same knowledge base about spinal injuries that PA's do?  Why can they clear someone off of a backboard, but we're still taught to assume that everyone with a bump on their head has a spinal injury? Our…"
Jan 30
Bob Sullivan replied to Ben Dowdy's discussion Functional vs. Foundational Education
"This came up in the debate about spinal immobilization.  Why don't we have the same knowledge base about spinal injuries that PA's do?  Why can they clear someone off of a backboard, but we're still taught to assume that…"
Jan 29
Ben Dowdy replied to Ben Dowdy's discussion Functional vs. Foundational Education
"I love the discussion thus far....I found this in a comment on Roguemedic's blog and thought it fit perfectly: You can’t take people with little or no science background and:- put them in a program that is only 9 months long,- and is…"
Jan 27
Skip Kirkwood replied to Ben Dowdy's discussion Functional vs. Foundational Education
"I would submit that there is no enough of either in today's USA EMS education programs.  We seem to have succumbed to the "quick and easy 80%" of what is needed to do the job, or maybe less.  Our didactic programs are weak…"
Jan 26
Justin P replied to Ben Dowdy's discussion Functional vs. Foundational Education
"There is a continual transition from first responder to paramedic where there is a higher emphasis on foundational education as we all know. I agree that the powerpoints we find associated with most EMS texts (particularly at the paramedic level)…"
Jan 26
Nathan replied to Ben Dowdy's discussion Functional vs. Foundational Education
"The foundational education MUST be there.  I can agree with Cannulator too. Too much foundation and not enough function leads to little more than a concrete slab with a few boards here and there on top of it.  How do we build the rest of…"
Jan 25
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Jan 23
The Cannulator replied to Ben Dowdy's discussion Functional vs. Foundational Education
"Ahh, but after now experiencing the foundational model for some years in Australia, the functional transition has been lost. Great to have the knowledge, the application is atrocious. Same as Nursing Medicine and most professions…"
Jan 22
Nathan left a comment for Ben Dowdy
"Bout time you got on here!!!  :)"
Jan 22

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Instructor/Educator
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Eastern Kentucky University
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http://emc.eku.edu
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10
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Georgetown-Scott County EMS
Powell County EMS
Wolfe Co. SAR
Wilderness Medical Associates International
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B.S. in Emergency Medical Care/EMS Admin from Eastern Kentucky University
the usual laundry list of merit badge courses
Wilderness Advanced Life Support
rope rescue/SAR/swiftwater rescue
tactical medic training
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I still haven't decided what I want to do when I grow up yet...but I know it will be somewhere in EMS. Other than that, I dig the outdoors and live music of all kinds.
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what's that?
I Love Being in Fire/EMS Because
I gotta hustle to keep up with the science and the changes in practice
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At 8:40pm on January 22, 2013, Nathan said…

Bout time you got on here!!!  :)

 
 
 
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