EMS Leadership & Ethics


EMS Leadership & Ethics

This group discusses issues of leadership (not management) and ethics in EMS.

Website: http://www.IPSLEI.org
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Latest Activity: May 1, 2016

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EMS Leadership Episode 9: Leaders Rant

Started by Geekymedic Mar 14, 2009.

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Comment by Skip Kirkwood on February 7, 2009 at 8:03pm
Hey James,

I made Mike's MP3 lectures in to an album that is permanently loaded on my MP3 player for use while I commute. Mike is an excellent and informative speaker, and most importantly he lives and believes that he says.

I'm also thrilled that you are in the UMBC grad program. EMS badly needs folks who are educated in the business, can research, write, speak, etc. I'm hoping, with Brian Maguire's return and continued effort by all that UMBC will be one of the main "academic centers of excellence" for the EMS world in the US, like Charles Sturt University and Monash have become in Australia.

Keep up the good work.

Comment by James T. Laidlaw IV on February 7, 2009 at 7:54pm
Hey all...I just found this group the other day. Mostly because I heard on some little podcast, all the time Skip has been spending online in these.

I'm currently working on my Master's degree through UMBC (One of the courses I am currently taking is Quality Management with Taigman) and was curious looking through the main comments, How many people Lead or manage? The concepts Mike has been talking about and that I have followed all point towards leadership and I have the greatest respect for him. If you haven't already purchased his audio series, it is available for FREE download at www.emsleader.com. Would like to hear what other people think of those topices...including (esp.) Skip
Comment by Skip Kirkwood on February 1, 2009 at 6:27pm
Hey Kevin,

What happened to IPSLEI.org? The link above now takes you to an IAFF web site.

Comment by Kim on January 1, 2009 at 10:50am
I feel that you have to be a good follower to be good leader in the long run. One should lead by example. I totally agree w/ some of everyone below about this issue. Just b/c someone takes a year long paramedic class doesnt necessary make them a great medic & the same goes w/ the leadership issue. To be a leader I feel as though you should be open to all issues and take into consideration the discussion/ issue from everyone.
Comment by Mark on December 31, 2008 at 4:50pm
Sorry, just because you read a book on leadership or sat through a class on it does not make you a leader.
Comment by Mark on December 31, 2008 at 4:48pm
Leadership... well there are natural leaders, those that will learn to be leaders, and some that claim to be a leader. I feel you can teach leadership but just because you read a book on it or sat through a class means you are a leader. Thanks for the formation of this group. I look forward to things to come.
Comment by Will Merrins on December 28, 2008 at 9:30pm
I would have to assume that "not management" refers to the bosses out in the field, Lieutenants, Captains, Crew Chiefs and the like. The ones out in the trenches with the grunts. Where as in some agencies, the higher ranks(chiefs-commissioners) become "management" and give up the "labor" role (and title).

Regardless of my view, I am happy to see a place where "bosses" can discuss issues that we as leaders face. What works and what maybe didn't work. Get advice and give advice. Blow off steam with people who understand what we as bosses go through.
Comment by Skip Kirkwood on December 26, 2008 at 7:33pm
It's important to define what we mean when we're having this discussion. Some folks say that you "lead people, while you manage things and processes." Others say "leadership is about doing the right thing, while management is about doing things right." There is not a consensus about what the two terms mean. I'm sort of always confused when someone starts discussing.....

Comment by Nadine on December 26, 2008 at 6:37pm
It is critical to distinguish between the skill of performance and the skill of leading. I feel they are two entirely different skills. It's also important to determine whether a person is capable of learning leadership. Is past leadership in any previous job an indicator of future leadership roles in the EMS sector.

The question to ask is, What type of qualities are we looking for in a person to consider them a leader?
Comment by PAMELA TAIBI on December 26, 2008 at 3:06pm

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