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Time for an after-action report from the Aurora theater shooting?
OK, I gotta ask. The judge has lifted the "gag order" with respect to non-law enforcement agencies in Aurora. Is the Aurora FD going to enlighten the rest of the EMS world with an after-action report? It sounds like there are some lessons for the rest of us to learn, and it would be nice to do so based on the perspectives and reports of those who were actually there. It's time for an AAR to be produced and released, so the EMS community can continue to learn.
Thanks, folks!
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Permalink Reply by Thomas A. Craighton on -
I would let them recover emotionally first. Like every other large event there is plenty of information that comes out.
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Permalink Reply by Skip Kirkwood on -
Not an unreasonable suggestion, Tom.
How long is long enough, do you think? And do the facts become more difficult to recall with the passing of long periods of time?Skip
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Permalink Reply by Justin P on -
I agree that an AAR is needed so we can learn more about responding to large scale incidents. I think that the Aurora FD may be mulling over the decision to release information about the response to the theater shooting because there is a possibility that it will reveal the fragmentation of EMS care in that part of Colorado. There were several EMS agencies involved and like many areas where you have City, County, Fire districts and contract EMS involved it may raise questions about response times and notification of mutual aid. So I think the City and FD are worried about lawsuits, unfortunately.
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Permalink Reply by The Cannulator on -
Nothing like getting the gossip on the big one hey?
With the amount of armchair experts spruiking on this event from wannabe heroes to "woulda shoulda coulda" types. There is plenty of time to review the event. Its when they want to, not when we need to.
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Permalink Reply by Skip Kirkwood on
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Actually, the fact that we are seeing these with increasing frequency has many EMS system leaders, as well as the people that we work for, concerned that we are well-prepared in every way for the possibility of an event. If there is a lesson to be learned, some of us want to learn it. There is more to this discussion, on a serious level, than your caustic remarks might suggest.
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Permalink Reply by The Cannulator on
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I'm not being caustic Skip. It's in the very nature of EMS to want to know what went on.
From how bin Laden was taken out to how Columbine went down. Everyone wants to know.
I seen every knee jerk online article about how we are going to handle shooter incidents AFTER the fact.
I have pretty much been repulsed by the aftermath of my EMS colleagues going through how they would have handled a real time shooter, let alone how they would stage, patch and dispatch.
So excuse my cynicsm.
Personally I'm just as concerned as to how such a nutbag gets access to a firearm cache like that.
Again and again.
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Permalink Reply by Skip Kirkwood on
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What I want to know is "What do the guys who were there think went well and didn't go so well." And "What would they do different if they could do it over."
Then I can incorporate that in to the planning for which I am responsible.....before the fact......
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Permalink Reply by Nathan on -
I agree with Justin and Skip.... Lets hear it. Its obvious there were issues, let us learn from them!
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Permalink Reply by Calen Edgar on -
Agree
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Permalink Reply by The Cannulator on
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We don't tell them anything. They have no obligation to anyone else. When they choose to release it, if they do, we can learn.
So patience young Jedis
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Permalink Reply by Skip Kirkwood on
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We generally believe that sharing after-action reports is part of our obligation to the profession. And even if they feel no such obligation, we are free to ask.
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