Philips monitors

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Permalink Reply by Chance Gearheart on May 14, 2009 at 8:46pm

You might try contacting Memphis Fire's EMS division and talking to them about their experiences. They switched from the Zolls to the Philips after five years of using zolls. The feedback seems to be very positive, expecially about the larger screens, See-Through-CPR standard, and the ability to monitor all 12 leads at one time.

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Permalink Reply by Terry thomason on May 14, 2009 at 9:07pm

Thank You, this is the first positive feedback I've gotten from anyone about the Philips.

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Permalink Reply by James Bartus Jr. on May 14, 2009 at 10:17pm

I'm curious, if you are using lifepak 12 now, has your service thought about going with the LP15? It would take less training to use an updated lifepak rather than switch to an entirely different machine. Right now my service uses the Zolls despite the overwhelming number of medics that told management to go with the lifepak. It was only $$$ in thier eyes, it was functionality in ours.

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Permalink Reply by Terry thomason on May 14, 2009 at 10:39pm

We are going away from the life-pak due to the poor service that we received. We have a lot of medics that work in other counties, most of them have used the Zoll. No one has used the Philips monitors and all the information I can find tells me not to use the Philips in the pre-hospital setting.

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Permalink Reply by Chance Gearheart on May 14, 2009 at 10:51pm

The difference is Philips offers a lot more functionality for less price than Lifepak 15s. Also, IIRC, LP15 doesn't have the see-through CPR technology.

James Bartus Jr. said:

I'm curious, if you are using lifepak 12 now, has your service thought about going with the LP15? It would take less training to use an updated lifepak rather than switch to an entirely different machine. Right now my service uses the Zolls despite the overwhelming number of medics that told management to go with the lifepak. It was only $$$ in thier eyes, it was functionality in ours.

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Permalink Reply by Terry thomason on May 14, 2009 at 11:14pm

We are a small service, we have two ALS ambulances to cover a 480 square mile county. It is hard for the county to have back up monitors and when are Life-paks went down we have been unable to get them repaired. As such we need monitors you can depend on. the distributor for the Life-pak has some federal problems is what we've been told.

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Permalink Reply by Chance Gearheart on May 15, 2009 at 12:08am

Physio-Control had some problems with the LP-12 and its rate of technical problems and use in the field (It's the reason the LP-20 isn't used on ambulances, as it's not approved for prehospital use). Those were cleared up two years ago.

Terry thomason said:

We are a small service, we have two ALS ambulances to cover a 480 square mile county. It is hard for the county to have back up monitors and when are Life-paks went down we have been unable to get them repaired. As such we need monitors you can depend on. the distributor for the Life-pak has some federal problems is what we've been told.

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Permalink Reply by Terry thomason on May 15, 2009 at 12:43am

In the past nine months our LP-12's have been in need of repair. One of them needs the 12 lead repaired and the second one needs the screen repaired. Physio-Control has been notified several times and we are still unable to get the repairs, this is the reason for looking at the Philips or Zoll.

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Permalink Reply by dr-exmedic on May 15, 2009 at 9:55am

Terry thomason said:

In the past nine months our LP-12's have been in need of repair. One of them needs the 12 lead repaired and the second one needs the screen repaired. Physio-Control has been notified several times and we are still unable to get the repairs, this is the reason for looking at the Philips or Zoll.

Sounds like you need a new Physio rep, not a new monitor company. The place I worked for gets loaners every time something on their LP12s needs major service, and the one loaner has been with them for at least 3 months.

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Permalink Reply by Terry thomason on May 15, 2009 at 11:44am

I am an EMT that writes grants for the services. I have ask the medic's about the LP-15, I feel they just don't want anything from Physio due to the problems in the past. I started this blog to see if anyone could tell me about the Philips and how well do they hold up to pre-hospital setting, not to bash Physio-Control

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Permalink Reply by Jasen Adam on May 15, 2009 at 4:14pm

Phillips:
Pros: Larger screen, ability to see all leads during a 12 lead, easy to navigate, time stamp of events
Cons: Enormous amount of EKG paper used during a code (1 roll per code), inaccurate alarms, constant alarms, very bulky.

Off the top of my head that is what I can think of. I personally, as well as most of the medics here, wish we would have purchased the Zolls instead.

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Permalink Reply by Daniel on May 15, 2009 at 4:41pm

We use the Philip's MRx's and love them compared to the LP12's. As someone else said the alarm's are annoying though. But if you keep an eye on the monitor and set your alarms down you wont have that prolem.

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