Hello ALL,

I am trying to get EMR classes started at Comstock Mining in Gold Hill Nevada.  I have taught the 40 hr first responder level classes before but with the new guide lines I am having a little trouble getting a schedule together to submit to the state of Nevada for approval wondering if anybody has any advise.

 

Thank you

John Haskins

Safety Manager

Comstock Mining INC

haskins@comstockmining.com

775-847-5272- ext 114

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John,

Here is a link to the PDF file from the National Highway & Transportation Safety Administration that guides current EMR training. It is about 348 pages long and includes the background that went into developing the current EMR curriculum. It includes sample lesson plans and instructor resources.

www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/ems/pub/frnsc.pdf

As long as your schedule and lesson plans cover all of the material in the guide, then you shouldn't have any trouble at all getting it approved. Keep in mind that some states require EMR's to have a CPR card prior to taking the class, check with NV's department of health/EMS board to find out. you can also consult with the national registry of EMT's and see if they have any ideas;using their skill sheets (which you can download from the NREMT.ORG website) for your candidate testing will prepare them for Registry entry at the EMR level.

Good Luck

Sincerely,

Justin Poland A.A.S., NREMT-P, LP, EMS-I

John,

I would concur with Justin's reply.  I will warn you that the document that he refers to can be a little overwhelming when you first look at it.  However, the exciting aspect of the new standards based education is that it will allow you to "flex" the material as you see fit.  Look at the material on the left side of the page and make that your objective goal target.  Most textbooks will be of great benefit to you in preparing for this.

On a related note, I would strongly enourage you to stay away from any publisher test bank.  With only one exception that I am aware of, they are poorly constructed and evaluate at very low levels of critical thinking.  When your students are facing their certification exam and even more importantly, taking care of patients, you want them to be able to THINK not merely recite facts and figures. 

Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Bill

Excellent point Bill, the test bank makers are way behind the curve on this one. You may actually find better test questions in an EMT-Basic book from a few years ago as those questions are a little more in depth as you might say. I recently picked up some test prep books, most of which weren't even written in for 5 bucks each at a Half Priced Books store; perhaps you have something like that there? Delmar's is a favorite of mine they seem to be pretty good.

Justin Poland A.A.S., NREMT-P, LP, EMS-I

We just started using a website called EMS Testing, (I am not marketing for them here) and so far I have found the test bank to be very applicable. It does take some background in instructional methodology to get the full use out of it, but I would say it's worth a look. 

I am looking at using Jones Bartlett EMR fith edition.  I am just having some trouble decicding how many chapters to do in a day and still have time to do practicals.  I know 60 hrs are not enough to learn how to do a patient assessment.  The only reason I am in the postion that I am in now is that I had good instructors and compitions to push me  and you and learn the skills needed I just wanted to get some in put to be able to boost me up a little over whelmed trying to get this started with my normal Job duties.

Thanks for all the input

I am looking at using Jones Bartlett EMR fith edition.  I am just having some trouble decicding how many chapters to do in a day and still have time to do practicals.  I know 60 hrs are not enough to learn how to do a patient assessment.  The only reason I am in the postion that I am in now is that I had good instructors and compitions to push me  and you and learn the skills needed I just wanted to get some in put to be able to boost me up a little over whelmed trying to get this started with my normal Job duties.

Thanks for all the input



Justin P said:

Excellent point Bill, the test bank makers are way behind the curve on this one. You may actually find better test questions in an EMT-Basic book from a few years ago as those questions are a little more in depth as you might say. I recently picked up some test prep books, most of which weren't even written in for 5 bucks each at a Half Priced Books store; perhaps you have something like that there? Delmar's is a favorite of mine they seem to be pretty good.

Justin Poland A.A.S., NREMT-P, LP, EMS-I

Generally the bulk of your time should be focused on Pt assessment and Respiratory and Cardiovascular as the new EMR test hammer assessment based management and ABC's. If you have 60 hours for your course you should probably devote 8 hours to medical assessment, 4 hours to trauma assessment, and 4 hours (1 class each) to respiratory and cardiac. That would be 20 hours for these 4 topic and is 1/3 of the total course. You can hammer out the fluff stuff (history of EMS, roles/ responsibilities of the EMR, medicolegal) in just a couple of classes. In my CCT course I just did it was like 2 hours for each of the fluff-type chapters.

Justin Poland A.A.S., NREMT-P, LP, EMS-I

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